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		<title>Comment on Where are all the SysAdmins? by sysadmin1138</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/14/where-are-all-the-sysadmins/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>sysadmin1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a very strong strain of solitary out there in sysadmin-space. The admins I worked with at my old job were a hermetic bunch. They had their own corner of sysadmin-space staked out, and would help people if asked to help, but didn&#039;t let people know they were willing to help people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I suspect this had to do with their being Windows admins, as that culture involves less &quot;if it&#039;s broke, write something to fix it&quot; mentality than the Linux space. And fewer mailing-lists &amp; IRC channels, which are sometimes the only place to find some information in Linux-land.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And on the Linux side, I knew several rather smart people who were dead convinced that what they knew wasn&#039;t worth sharing. So they didn&#039;t. It takes some ego to go forth into the world believe you have something worth sharing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very strong strain of solitary out there in sysadmin-space. The admins I worked with at my old job were a hermetic bunch. They had their own corner of sysadmin-space staked out, and would help people if asked to help, but didn&#8217;t let people know they were willing to help people.</p>

<p>I suspect this had to do with their being Windows admins, as that culture involves less &#8220;if it&#8217;s broke, write something to fix it&#8221; mentality than the Linux space. And fewer mailing-lists &amp; IRC channels, which are sometimes the only place to find some information in Linux-land.</p>

<p>And on the Linux side, I knew several rather smart people who were dead convinced that what they knew wasn&#8217;t worth sharing. So they didn&#8217;t. It takes some ego to go forth into the world believe you have something worth sharing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on *Shudder* DevOps by Michael Gorsuch</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/06/shudder-devops/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gorsuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And forgive me for my typos ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And forgive me for my typos <img src='http://brokenhaze.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on *Shudder* DevOps by Michael Gorsuch</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/06/shudder-devops/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gorsuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi George!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you make a good serious of points here, but I think that Lester may have hit it hard: in may cases, devops is being used to displace the &#039;bad&#039; sysadmins.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your list of requirements is right.  SysAdmins should have mastery of some form of programming.  The sad fact is, not many do.  Seriously.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So whether we use the term devops (with the implications that you will be replaced if you cannot code) or we take your path of advocacy (with the implications that you will be replaced if you cannot code), we&#039;re surely going to win, right?  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi George!</p>

<p>I think you make a good serious of points here, but I think that Lester may have hit it hard: in may cases, devops is being used to displace the &#8216;bad&#8217; sysadmins.</p>

<p>Your list of requirements is right.  SysAdmins should have mastery of some form of programming.  The sad fact is, not many do.  Seriously.</p>

<p>So whether we use the term devops (with the implications that you will be replaced if you cannot code) or we take your path of advocacy (with the implications that you will be replaced if you cannot code), we&#8217;re surely going to win, right?  <img src='http://brokenhaze.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Where are all the SysAdmins? by coredump</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/14/where-are-all-the-sysadmins/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>coredump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Try to get hold of LOPSA, they have similar goals.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to get hold of LOPSA, they have similar goals.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Where are all the SysAdmins? by Paul Jeffery</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/14/where-are-all-the-sysadmins/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jeffery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a Sr. Sys Admin for a SMB company and another colleague and I were having the same discussion regarding creating a Sys Admin community site to share knowledge.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are some out there, but your looking at &quot;something&quot; Overflow or Spiceworks or TechNet.  Those are good for fixing problems, but there are truly nothing out there that has a &quot;community&quot; driven aspect.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Please email me as I would love to hear more about your views and ideas on this topic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Sr. Sys Admin for a SMB company and another colleague and I were having the same discussion regarding creating a Sys Admin community site to share knowledge.</p>

<p>There are some out there, but your looking at &#8220;something&#8221; Overflow or Spiceworks or TechNet.  Those are good for fixing problems, but there are truly nothing out there that has a &#8220;community&#8221; driven aspect.</p>

<p>Please email me as I would love to hear more about your views and ideas on this topic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Where are all the SysAdmins? by Dan</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/14/where-are-all-the-sysadmins/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;community.spiceworks.com - Techcrunch described it as &quot;the Facebook of IT&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>community.spiceworks.com &#8211; Techcrunch described it as &#8220;the Facebook of IT&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on *Shudder* DevOps by Lester Cheung</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/06/shudder-devops/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are good sysadmins and bad sysadmins. IMO the term DevOps was invented to distinguish good ones form the bad....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good sysadmins and bad sysadmins. IMO the term DevOps was invented to distinguish good ones form the bad&#8230;.</p>

<p> <img src='http://brokenhaze.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on *Shudder* DevOps by Wesley</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2012/02/06/shudder-devops/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I keep thinking that DevOps is a very awesome mindset for a very speciated set of tasks. SysAdmin != DevOps and not all places that need SysAdmins can use DevOps. The overall mindset of DevOps seems great. The methodologies can be learned from. But the operational specifics are very specialized.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking that DevOps is a very awesome mindset for a very speciated set of tasks. SysAdmin != DevOps and not all places that need SysAdmins can use DevOps. The overall mindset of DevOps seems great. The methodologies can be learned from. But the operational specifics are very specialized.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on SysAdminTools &#8211; Making Our Lives Easier by SysAdmin Tools &#124; The IT Hedgehog</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2011/07/29/sysadmintools-making-our-lives-easier/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>SysAdmin Tools &#124; The IT Hedgehog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] You can read his original post about this over at his blog Broken Haze [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read his original post about this over at his blog Broken Haze [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Full Featured Email using powershell by Geeks Gab</title>
		<link>http://brokenhaze.com/blog/2011/03/25/full-featured-email-using-powershell/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeks Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This really answered my problem, thank you!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really answered my problem, thank you!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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